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[MLUG] Linux distro war... mlug Digest, Vol 105, Issue 4
Yves Legault
2017-01-16 19:39:52 UTC
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We do have a lot of distribution to pick from within the Linux world...

840 of them, but there may be half of them that are now
defunct.
https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=All&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&status=All

Likewise, we do have a lot of desktop to pick from too...

Over 15 of them!

The Linux community is offering more flexibility, dependability,
reliability and choices than all other parties in the operating system
field combined.
When we install Linux on a PC, we often have the ability to install all
the needed supporting software to turn it into a production machine
right away.
Linux resistance to virus attacks is a testimony to "having security
built in from the ground up" philosophy.
The overwhelming presence of Linux in the super computer world as well
as the internet backbone itself is a living proof Linux is a serious
piece of OS indeed.
Let's build on those!
Let's talk about these assets that have made Linux arguably the best
there is in the OS world.
I understand Linux to be the single most important vector of evolution
in the computer field since the Commodore Amiga 1000 and the Atari
520ST, back in 1985.

I, for one, question the numbers published regarding different OS'es
popularity in the world today.
They generally base their surveys on the amount of money spent to
acquire the OS.
Tell me where Linux will show up in such a field?

Yes!

Very low!

While I tend to agree with the Apple market penetration being at the 10%
level or a bit more, I fail to understand why Linux is stuck under the
3% mark.

This is definitely a subject that, I believe, need to be revisited by
those how have the knowledge to do so.

YLL
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1. Re: Linux-Meetup Montréal (10 janvier 2017) (Nick Sklavenitis)
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I guess we had nothing better to do on a Linux User group but to start a Distro war in 2017.
Lets keep it civil there a few people possibly still in the hundreds who probably like me do not care to have this conversation and i think who ever does should take it off the list. This is a mailing list for linux and linux questions and events, This is not a popularity list and considering there are more linux distros out there then days in a year, i think which one is better is best left for individual users to decide.
The January invitation was titled UBUNTU users. The MLUG was not supposed to be a "Ubuntu only" group.
Do you actually mean you don't expect to see an invitation for a SUSE group — or any other LUG — to go through this list?
This is a general “LUG(s) in Montréal” mailing list and this kind of emails are perfectly acceptables.
Yes, it is impolite, but then when the invitation is titled "Ubuntu users" I guess that excludes others.
Yes it probably does, because this is probably the expected audience for the meeting.
The subject was clear so you were well informed and free to just ignore the message if you are not interested in this topic.
It still perfectly belongs to the “Montréal LUG” topic.
I like to evalutate distributions. I have currently installed Chapeau Linux, Korora Linux, RFRemix (Russian Linux), SUSE, and Arch.
I did have Ubuntu and Debian. but I only have 5 disks, and I like to keep my distributions away from each other.
I'm just curious about the “5 disks”. Assuming 20 GB is enough to test a single distro — and it usually is, unless you install a LOT of non distro specific packages — a single 500 GB disk allow to test 25 distros. Assuming you would optimize things with the use of virtualization, because testing hardware support doesn't require a full installation (live testing is enough for that), you could test even more distros on one single disk, not mentioning opening a whole new world of networking experimentations. Testing on 5 disks would mean they probably are old and slow disks and it would not be the best way to evaluate modern distros.
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Hendrik Boom
2017-01-16 20:08:33 UTC
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Post by Yves Legault
I, for one, question the numbers published regarding different OS'es
popularity in the world today.
They generally base their surveys on the amount of money spent to
acquire the OS.
Tell me where Linux will show up in such a field?
Yes!
Very low!
While I tend to agree with the Apple market penetration being at the 10%
level or a bit more, I fail to understand why Linux is stuck under the
3% mark.
I think it makes a *huge* difference whetherwhen you say Linux,
you mean just GNU/Linux, or whether you include Android/Linux.

-- hendrik
Leslie Satenstein
2017-01-17 03:20:02 UTC
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Hi Hendrik
Distrowatch has a kind of download statistic that shows the ranking of
Linux distributions. RedHat with Centos, and Fedora do not use
Distrowatch. What RedHat monitors by release are the system user IP
addresses when a user requests a system update. Their approach seems to be
more accurate than what Distrowatch provides. It is too bad that other
distributions do not post the number of IP addresses used by their
followers.
Post by Hendrik Boom
Post by Yves Legault
I, for one, question the numbers published regarding different OS'es
popularity in the world today.
They generally base their surveys on the amount of money spent to
acquire the OS.
Tell me where Linux will show up in such a field?
Yes!
Very low!
While I tend to agree with the Apple market penetration being at the 10%
level or a bit more, I fail to understand why Linux is stuck under the
3% mark.
I think it makes a *huge* difference whetherwhen you say Linux,
you mean just GNU/Linux, or whether you include Android/Linux.
-- hendrik
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2017-01-17 03:27:06 UTC
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Ubuntu made a little infographic recently
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Post by Leslie Satenstein
Hi Hendrik
Distrowatch has a kind of download statistic that shows the ranking of
Linux distributions. RedHat with Centos, and Fedora do not use
Distrowatch. What RedHat monitors by release are the system user IP
addresses when a user requests a system update. Their approach seems
to be more accurate than what Distrowatch provides. It is too bad that
other distributions do not post the number of IP addresses used by
their followers.
Post by Yves Legault
I, for one, question the numbers published regarding different OS'es
popularity in the world today.
They generally base their surveys on the amount of money spent to
acquire the OS.
Tell me where Linux will show up in such a field?
Yes!
Very low!
While I tend to agree with the Apple market penetration being at
the 10%
Post by Yves Legault
level or a bit more, I fail to understand why Linux is stuck
under the
Post by Yves Legault
3% mark.
I think it makes a *huge* difference whetherwhen you say Linux,
you mean just GNU/Linux, or whether you include Android/Linux.
-- hendrik
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